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New Information Regarding Police Seizures of Overgrow.com Update: 2007-10-01

Source: cannabisculture.com
Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Company and Eurohemp.com Owners Apprehended.

Cannabis Culture has developed a timeline of events we believe accurately account for the disappearance of Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seeds (hempqc.com), and Eurohemp.

On Monday evening, resident of Montreal Richard Calrisian, the owner of the four websites, was contacted by his web service providers in Vancouver where his servers were situated. They told him that there may be a problem, regarding a police investigation. RC told his provider to shut down the websites immediately.

Within hours, the police (it's unknown what kind of police) apparently entered the server site in Vancouver with a warrant and apprehended the hardware that housed the four web sites.

In the early morning of Tuesday, police in Montreal moved in and arrested RC, his wife, family members and an unknown number of employees.

It is alleged that RC, a pseudonym, is being held at Riviere-des-Prairie (RDP) jail in Montreal, and his wife in is Tanguay jail, across the river from RDP. Cannabis Culture called the prison and found no one there under the name Richard Calrisian.

The bail hearing should be on Monday, but it is unusual that a bail hearing has not yet been held. Typically they take place within 24 hours of arrest, unless an investigation is ongoing and the accused are being held temporarily without bail. This may be because there is a risk that the arrest news might inform other persons who are also under investigation.

Earlier reports of a drug bust in Hearst, Ontario are not related the seizure of Overgrow.com websites.

Overgrow.com Update: 2006-02-28

Source: www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2006/28/c2334.html (canadanewswire.ca)

MONTREAL, Feb. 28 /CNW Telbec/ - The members of the Marihuana Grow Operations Enforcement Team of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police concluded their first major operation when they uncovered a Montreal based criminal organization involved in the trafficking, importation and exportation of cannabis seeds, as well as in conspiring for the purpose of cannabis cultivation via the Internet. This operation was launched in November 2004 under the name "Courriel" and culminated with the seizure of 200,000 cannabis seeds and the arrest of seven persons.

Project "Courriel" revealed that Richard Hratch BAGHDADLIAN, 38, from Marsan Street in Montreal, and six other persons operated the Heaven's Stairway company. This company was on the web claiming to be the North American supplier for indoor and outdoor cannabis production.

The cybercompany Heaven's Stairway used the Internet sites hempqc.com, cannabisworld.com, overgrow.com, eurohemp.com, cannabisseeds.com, and cannabisbay.com. These sites were used to order cannabis seeds online and obtain information on cannabis cultivation. These Internet sites also suggested ways to outsmart the police.

Richard Hratch BAGHDADLIAN was the instigator, head and main beneficiary of the illicit company Heaven's Straiway. The other six accused acted as couriers and performed other duties for the company. They are Geoffrey CHAN, 33, Maria Cristina CIVITILLO, 32, Natalie BAGHDADLIAN, 40, Manuel Bento FERNANDES, 45, Christopher ALMOND, 38, and Teresa RODRIGUES, 39. They all live in Montreal except Christopher ALMOND who lives in Ville Saint-Laurent.

The organization processed approximately 30 orders of cannabis seeds a
day averaging $100 each. The seeds were sent to clients by regular mail.

The seven people are facing 49 charges under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act and the Criminal Code of Canada. The offences were committed in Quebec, Canada, North America, the United Kingdom and elsewhere in the world between March 12, 1998 and January 31, 2006.

Nine searches were carried out during the week of January 30, 2006 in order to gather evidence that criminal activities had been committed. The searches were conducted in Montreal and Laval, as well as in the residences of three of the accused, a business, three post office boxes, a vehicle and a safe-deposit box.

These searches led to the seizure of 200,000 cannabis seeds, more than $183,362 in US currencies and $14,000 in Canadian currencies, both in cash and postal money orders, three one-kilogram gold bricks, a Harley-Davidson motorcycle, a Mazda RX8 and many purchase orders. Since the searches were conducted, 272 orders have been intercepted by the police.

The amount of seeds seized during the searches could have made it possible to operate approximately 500 cannabis greenhouses of 400 plants each, which represent 42 million joints sold on the street.

The seven accused are liable to 10 years' imprisonment. Since the possession of cannabis seeds is illegal under Schedule II of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, clients of the network could also receive a visit from the police.

It should be noted that Project "Courriel", a first in Canada, is the fruit of the work of the new Marihuana Grow Operations Enforcement Team. This new drug enforcement team is one of the seven teams established by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police across Canada in 2004 to combat the scourge of marihuana. The main objectives of these teams are to interdict drugs before they arrive in our communities and to target and destroy the infrastructure and the networks used by criminal organizations involved in marihuana production. These organizations constitute a threat to public safety and well-being.

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Montana Zack... on Thu 13, Dec 2007 07:30 In reply to the northern european- Please don't think that any intelligent American doesn't see that we are trying to make a one government world here, for the sake of making a lot of money obviously. While I agree with you that it is most bogus that overgrow was shutdown because the US government (I don't claim it as my own..) decided to stretch into canadian policies and tell the loonies to arrest the dude, I cannot agree with your messed up ideas on gun control. If the government starts taking away your rights (as they have been since the 1930's) eventually there will be a time in which you must fight for those rights, and how can one fight without guns? These idiots that shoot places up have some real fucking issues, but the problem is not that they were allowed to have guns, it's that they were mentally sick. Basically, punish the dog, not the breed, ya know? In short, YES we know that this war is BOGUS, NO we do not support it, the people do NOT have a voice however. We try to tell Bushy boy to take the troops out and discontinue this war, but he just hires black ops (mercenaries)that congress has no control over because they aren't part of the government. This war is for MONEY, that's it. Overgrow lives on in the fighting spirit of every stoner that visited the website.

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das3d on Mon 19, Nov 2007 15:25 I'm still in awe that overgrow has not returned. Alot of these other forums are full of highschool or even worse, middleschool kids talking about drugs. Not anything compared to the original. @ TheCannaForum.com

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doctor from north europe on Tue 02, Oct 2007 09:56 sorry my english allready.. ok, OG was best site ever, really sad they pigs have done something really terrible... in all that time they could catch up like 100 rapers etc... raeding post above, and just wondering few things about USA. u easily pollute most in earth like someone said, u got easily most nuclear bomb shiit and only country which had used em , not meant tests. then some tiny country somewhere maybe thinks they could try nuclear..bam! bush says that they are terrorists and its war. its that ur thing ? NO, u just are worried they use it against you, maybe thats correct coz damn usa is worlds own "police" and is allways telling what to do or just says its opinion which is really an order. U fats got easily most weapons in civilianzs hands and ur SOO surprised about damn shcool shootings and murders(most in world)... ur president starts an meanless war or do something other really stupidshit.. then he show up ur flag and talk some shit about god and then everything ok again. so..its this really so that ur sooo stupid ? or is it ur presidents who are criminals (skulls&bones). but anyway why u choose president who cant read a book or speak none whithout alleready written speaks. AND all that shit before, how !!¤&?"! like him become like that anyway.. blah..bored ;))

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OVER GROWN on Wed 26, Sep 2007 21:16 IS YOUR GARDEN OVERGROWN? we are trying to pick up where OVERGROW left off... the difference is, our site is located in the usa & is ONLY meant for people who grow their medicine LEGALLY. anyone who grows their medicine is welcome to help us add to the new strain guide. it's located at: overgrown.ineedhemp.com check it out. PEACE!

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Nobodiez Home on Fri 03, Aug 2007 20:43 RIP Overgrow Many Many people have dropped off the web. HG420 took about 10% of ogs base Breedbay about 10% Planet Ganja took about 15-20% and I.C. Mag took about 20-25% Which leaves about 35% MIA The 3lbs recently returned as Flintstones on IC Mag but many more still MIA! All the bullshit about POM or anyone buying OG seems to be just that, BULL! So, RIP Overgrow and Cannabis World If RC was such a GREAT HERO, overgrow would be up and thriving.

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jahschild on Sat 14, Jul 2007 20:29 What? Na mate that is a shit written article. Lets put some things right. Richard Baghdadlian is a hero, and so is his crew, and his misses. The man-made law calling plants illicit is a fucking joke, Marijawanna, has been on the planet 2 million years, how can a plant growing in the earth that procreates be ilegal?? The Police are an offence against nature. The only people destroying communities are the Police. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police work for the Queen of England, her real name is Sax-Coburg-Gotha, The most Murderous family that Europe has ever known, from Bavaria Germany. She secretly Funded Hitler during the 2nd World War, allowing him to purchase Arms and build his military industrial complex, she also ordered the Murder of Diana, Dr David Kelly, and Jill Dando, to name a few. Type into google '2012 The Future of Mankind' a very revealing talk by Micheal Tsarion, free film online. a must see talk, trust. Back to the story, Big Pharma is allowed to create toxic synthetic psycotropic drugs, and they persecute the herb growers, it is Big Pharma that don't want benifits of Marijawanna waking the consciousness of man. Then everyone would see the lies for what they are. People take herb to escape the horror and Bullshit [we all face in western countrys today] so they can enjoy some beauty, self awareness, and create a spiritual path to freedom and escape the ditritus of slave life.

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stagger g on Tue 22, May 2007 15:06 "these organizations constitute a threat to public safety and well being." what kinda trash is that? go catch a crack head

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FL_SpliffRoller on Fri 09, Mar 2007 14:36 pay them taxes and comeback to us!

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yo, reality check on Sat 03, Mar 2007 09:44 In case you haven't noticed: or maybe you just went on a really long vacation and missed the last election!, the change has already begun! The dems have control of the House and the Senate! Now we just need a proper change at the helm, then this country will work on what it really needs to work on, it's own people and their issues! Instead we choose to protect a natural resource that is actually keeping our economy from entering into the 21st century like all the other major countries of the world. Not only that, it(oil) keeps the US last in the auto industry, and 1st in most contributing polluters at 33% of the worlds yearly pollution! Oh but I'm sure you'll still stand up for this war against so called terroism! Terroism against our own country's welfare maybe!

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hey reality check! on Fri 02, Mar 2007 22:58 yeah your right reality check! Pot wouldn't be ILLEGAL if Kerry were elected! Stupid conservative good 'ol boy. stay down south where you think most people are conservative! Where the only consesus taken on any issue is by conservatives! Stupidity- knowing something is wrong, but believing in it anyway!

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exog on Wed 21, Feb 2007 00:16 Isn't this article skewed a bit? I thought seeds were legal in canada and the only reason overgrow et al were shut down was because they were unscrupulous about mailing to US addresses... the montreal Marihuana Task Force wants to claim its first major bust by complying with a US subpoena to take down one of the most well-known seed suppliers.. well way to go guys.. this news really should be in your honour.

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RealityCheck on Mon 29, Jan 2007 06:19 Yeah, this sucks. But I hate to tell you guys, Pot wouldn't be illegal if kerry had gotten elected. Despite what many of you might like to think, the Dems as a party aren't any better for pot smokers than republicans. 95% of US politicians are conservative (whether they are democrats or republicans) old rich men. NEITHER party is going to support pot legalization until you stop making the government out to be the bad guys and let them change gracefully. Educate the public - and your representatives - on the truth of pot, and allow the politicos to legalize pot as a way of righting a wrong of the past. They aren't going to do it if you make them the bad guys, if you make legalization admittance of wrongdoing. And for god's sake, quit being so petulantly liberal. Most people are conservative so if your demands for pot liberation are hopelessly intertwined with all kinds of other liberal agendas, they are doomed to fail. Keep pot free and clear, an issue standing on its own. The non smoking us population has this view that all pot smokers are fringe radicals, liberal hippies, etc (all groups which, whether you guys like it or not, MOST people disagree with) when in reality most of them are just normal good ol boys who would prefer a clean high to the taint of liquor. Pot's not going to become legal until it becomes mainstream, and that's not going to happen as long as the loudest pro-cannabis voices are attacking the government and thereby (at least in the eyes of the public) the United States itself.

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not athief but a criminal on Wed 03, Jan 2007 08:13 plant a seed and grow a plant, any plant, your favourite plant perhaps. i am inciting u to do so. god will takle care of the rest, and only he can judge us.

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GRITTZ on Sat 30, Dec 2006 06:26 SMOKE HERB NOT GANJ

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helpless on Thu 21, Dec 2006 22:54 I can only imagine that this is the first of many changes to come. May GOD help us all! Peace and Love. SMOKE BUD!

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FUCK_ME on Wed 12, Jul 2006 03:09 I hope the people who did shit like this... http://cannabisnews.com/news/18/thread18001.sht ml realize that all it did was pesss the US to bully Canada into cracking down.

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Purple RompStar on Wed 24, May 2006 20:49 I doubt overgrwo.com kept logs, unless they didn't shut the default logging by the system and apache. What the government could have done which is far worse is month before start logging with a court order at the ISP/Gateway switch and recording it them selfs for months before arresting or shutting down anyone. So now you have to wonder if the local ISP from all the people who logged in to overgrow.com hept logs, and if they did, how how long and did they kept tape backups and with what range of dates. Since most people get a dynamic ID when you logon, many times that information is lost with time. I lived in a communist county, so I know all this shit and what governments are capable of. Now all you stupid f!@#ers who voted for bush, insert a butt plug slowly and like it, you bitch!

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duder on Sun 16, Apr 2006 09:37 So .. they killed OG.. I say we OG them on the net too .. for every weed-information site they close, We ALL open 5 more..

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brizzel on Thu 23, Mar 2006 22:18 over grow was the shit. fuck the police. thank you overgrow for teaching me how to grow. the yeild looks great this crop

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Kiftymack on Tue 14, Mar 2006 21:34 Gotta say I was surprised to see overgrow go under just like that. I'd only just discovered the fucking thing and in its absense I find all the other sites dont hold a candle to it. Can anyone suggest a good site to visit instead? But 3 fucking cheers to the late overgrow. This is my first time on this site and I cant understand all the gripes and snipes below me. I grow weed cos the hash in Belfast is shite, and no fuckers gonna tell me I cant. Go catch some real crims ya fucking wankers.

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copsodomy on Mon 13, Mar 2006 22:08 Fuck!!!!!!!!!!How the fuck can overgrow be gone?They need to focus on meth labs or something a lot more dangerous than weed. Weed doesn't hurt you near as bad is some of the crazy ass medicine they prescribe to people in our clinics every day.Shit, people work like shit when they don't have caffine.Weed illegal....Bulshit!

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Sorcerer on Mon 13, Mar 2006 16:21 Overgrow was a private webpage, that helped alot of people with various issues, I love it that our hard earned tax money goes to funding retarded police teams that go to peoples houses and ruin there lives and make them look like criminals just because they smoke weed, not everone can become a cop, FUCK THE POLICE

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strait2mybueno on Mon 13, Mar 2006 12:55 "these organizations constitute a threat to public safety and well-being".. yes these were some very dangerous criminals.. thank GOD they are off the streets and out of our communities!

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Nice Comment UNA. on Sat 04, Mar 2006 05:02 hey, this sucks for everyone who enjoys freedom; and i don't mean that in a fallicious way. i just mean that who's to say what i can grow in the dirt and smoke in my lungs? have i ever hurt anyone physically or emotionally by being under the influence of any drug i've taken? if you knew me you'd know i am a good person and would not want anyone to be in anyway harmed; but can we say the same for the officers who participated in these arrests? what was right about thier actions? and are you justified even when following an unjust law?

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Reeferman on Thu 02, Mar 2006 17:14 Nasty federal maggots of the worst kind just like the swiss had there time at least now it seams canada has met a simular fate. Buckle up boys and girls and be sure not to order seeds from canadian companies ! 276 seed orders were intercepted by the RCMP during there media block of the arrest of RC , reeferman is safe and secure in Europe I wish RC had followed our direction . Safe and happy growing ! reeferman

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Smokin' Joe on Wed 01, Mar 2006 04:42 And this team does what? Give us all a break...what these govts. are doing is acting like the KGB and Hitlers' S.S. WHy are we not jamming their mailboxes and cramming their network so full of complaints that it will make them hard to leave their buildings. WE VOTED THEM IN....WE CAN TAKE THEM OUT. Time to take a stand...we are not living in the 19th century..get these assholes that are beyond 50 out and get a new govt that is for the people not for Big business. The tabbacco companies are also behind the problem since they want the monopoly to control pot. Look at what cigs have done and the beer lobbists. Cigs and alcohol have killed while pot has yet to claim a life as I see it. Bill Meyer has my vote...Politically Incorrect host had been made to give up show because of his views on govt. and stand on with NORMAL.

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Fatty! on Tue 28, Feb 2006 21:08 Sorry, if my spelling is off. Thats because I am already half way into a fatty!!! The world is better because of marijuana. They just do not know the awesome benefits is has. Legalize!!!

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Fatty! on Tue 28, Feb 2006 21:00 NUTS STONES ROCKS BOYS BOLDERS ect.... We are all victoms of this socialist police state. Legalize!!!

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on Tue 28, Feb 2006 20:48 ok ... i can 2nd that. but the part of them having some NUTS should be in BOLD.

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Fatty! on Tue 28, Feb 2006 20:44 The use, production and sale of Marijuana can never, and I mean never be stopped! As long as we want to smoke it, no one, not even the mighty DEA can stop it. So to all my stoner friends, do not let this bust get you down. Light-up a fatty, and mellow out. Although HT could have bigger stones on thier reporting, what happend in Canada is not thier fault. Legalize!!!!

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ht on Tue 28, Feb 2006 20:42 those aren't servers in the photos. THe servers are on 3 huge racks. Those are computers and drives having to do with seed sales. Don't believe the hype.

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ht on Tue 28, Feb 2006 20:41 the og book is between Jorge and RC. here's something else you should know about... Not only does wearing tin foil hats not protect you from the gov't mind control rays, it may, in fact, amplify the effect.

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To Bad So Sad on Tue 28, Feb 2006 20:27 you can never stop mary jane.

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Dutty on Tue 28, Feb 2006 19:39 Why not go after meth, heroin and crack distributors? I say everyone should be required to grow pot! If enough people consume marijuana and also grow it, we will not be a minority anymore.

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dontworryaboutit on Tue 28, Feb 2006 19:22 i see over on the CC forums emery seems pleased with a recent move to turn themselves all in; do you think this will work to our favor here in the us or is that only a canadian thing?

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Infowars.com fan on Tue 28, Feb 2006 17:17 Wow, sounds like the begining of Marijuana prohibition here in the US. Go canada, you can be a toltarian, human rights abuser too. oh wait you always have been. The gig is up people. Hold on tight, the worst has yet to come.

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abc on Tue 28, Feb 2006 16:59 threat were if it was legal there would be no problems but thats the way some people like it. save a cop legalize

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me on Tue 28, Feb 2006 16:25 exactly, now theyre using all that info everyone gave for free, and theyre using it make profits for themselves. all you overgrowers out there just helped make more money for high times and jorge C. so the book, you guys wrote it, high times is stealing it and selling it for profit. then they WILL come and delete this comment too. just like Gypsy did at IC.

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to mr. p on Tue 28, Feb 2006 15:38 Read the OG TOU buddy. Anything posted there became property of RC. He can do anything he wants with it and you agreed to that when you signed up and posted. TS buddy.

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pookabear on Tue 28, Feb 2006 15:32 Get drunk. It's "OK"

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pookabear on Tue 28, Feb 2006 15:30 It's interesting that a peaceful herb is targeted, when the suppliers of the main ingredient for meth/over-the-counter pain relievers, in India(?), send TONS of the stuff to a bogus operation in Mexico where it is used to make Meth and then piped over the border to the US... Made possible by the pharmaceutical companies who don't want to give up the shelf space and make it more difficult for the consumers = less sales. But, hey, let's depend on ignorance and fear, because there's more money in it for the government higher-ups, thanks to the lobbyists who help (bribe) to keep this shit over-the-counter. Who are the real criminals?

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Kroninn on Tue 28, Feb 2006 15:20 I'll do something man! I'll go to the doctor, get a note and then go SEE G.W.B and "blow a hit in his stupid monkey face, and he'll have to just sit there groovin on it man!"-Homer J. Simpson.

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Kroninn on Tue 28, Feb 2006 15:17 OHHHH YYEEAAAHH...what a public threat. Have you ever seen a stoner get violent...No man...We are peaceful. It's the alcies that get out of control.

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on Tue 28, Feb 2006 14:14 I just want to say one thing. Most people who smoke Marijuana are adults. SO START BEING ADULTS AND STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU KNOW IS RIGHT. MARIJUANA IS NOT EVIL.. PEOPLE ARE EVIL. AND ITS PEOPLE WHO MAKE MARIJUANA "SEEM" EVIL. IF YOU ARE AN ADULT AND YOU SMOKE MARIJUANA.. THEN DO SOMETHING FOR THE CAUSE.. BECAUSE IF YOU DONT... ITS JUST GONNA GET WORSE.

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dontworryaboutit on Tue 28, Feb 2006 14:12 a bust wins it. need for those involved to be concerned is now official? id say if anything some of the internet community was the most helpful in launching this news into the public first etc. etc.?

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Smoke everyday allday on Tue 28, Feb 2006 14:08 well I think that they should just legalize weed. What the fuck everyone smokes they anit doing nothing but make the shit higher for us cause yall keep busting everyone. Making it harder for us to get. STAY HIGH !!

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420 Viper on Tue 28, Feb 2006 13:58 ".....in an effort to target the scourge of marijuana." SCOURGE MY ASS!

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